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    I was going to do a TFI setup, but there's no cam sensor in the 2.3L distributor, so ditch that. I have a 558-102 harness that I moved cylinders 2 & 4 to the odd connectors, so I'd have the 1, 2, 3, 4 cylinders on odd side. I wire the Ford TPS sensor to the harness so I can still use the factory Ford TPS. I wired the 3 bar MAP sensor connector. I'm using LS coils & harness. I'm getting a cam sync and connector for the cam sync. I'll wire in from a Ranger with 2.3L. Will the Holley 554-124 crank sensor work with a 36-1 crank trigger? Or can I use a PyroPete crank trigger kit comes with everything, but the crank sensor, it's a 2-wire? On a side note, I noticed the there's a ground that goes to the cylinder head. I'd still ground that to the cylinder head like I would if it were on the LS1 for the ground on the coils? Thanks for the help in advance. Brent

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    Sorry, I'll try and make sure that it's correct before sending the reply. I'm looking for a spell check, but I'm not seeing it. I do have a friend helping me with this over the internet. I'm not sure if he's a member or not. On the crank sensor 554-124, is this the correct one I'd need on a 36-1 crank trigger? I do believe it's steel. I know the kit PyroPete offers is a steel crank trigger. It comes with a 2-wire, but I don't think it'll work due to it being a 2-wire crank sensor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsanders View Post
    On the crank sensor 554-124, is this the correct one I'd need on a 36-1 crank trigger?
    Yes, use a Hall-Effect geartooth sensor.

    I do believe it's steel. I know the kit PyroPete offers is a steel crank trigger.
    It's stainless steel. Yes, all missing teeth type crank triggers are ferrous steel.

    It comes with a 2-wire, but I don't think it'll work due to it being a 2-wire crank sensor.
    Yes, use 3-wire Hall-Effect crank & cam sensors, not VR Magnetic sensors.

    In my opinion, if a Holley EFI user isn't familiar with the Magnetic Ignition Type "Minimum Signal Voltage" &
    "Filtering" parameters (in System Parameters/Custom Ignition Parameters), then they have no business using
    VR/magnetic pickup type crank & cam sensors. This is the problem with using magnetic pickup type sensors,
    there's more tuning work/adjustment involved. Hall-Effect sensors are "set & forget", very easy to use.

    The more robust Hall-Effect sensors are preferred because they're not susceptible to EMI/RFI interference/noise,
    and their digital square-wave signal strength is consistent, regardless of RPM (unlike the VR magnetic sine-wave).
    Also, the VR magnetic pickup signal is weaker at cranking speeds.

    Another problem with using VR Magnetic sensors, is there's more tuning work. Hall-Effect is "set & forget".
    The VR Magnetic Sensor Type "Filtering" & "Minimum Signal Voltage" parameters need to be programmed.
    http://documents.holley.com/199r10676rev.pdf (Magnetic Crank/Cam Input Filtering Parameters, Page 2)
    http://forums.holley.com/showthread....4450#post54450 (Example: Wrong Magnetic Parameters, Post #25)

    Hall-Effect: 3-wire, square wave signal (digital), pulse generation
    VR Magnetic: 2-wire, sine wave signal (inductive), voltage generation
    http://www.electronicproducts.com/El...g_for_you.aspx (Hall-Effect vs VR Magnetic)
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    Thank you Danny for the quick reply! I'll keep you guys posted with my progress.

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    You're welcome.
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