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    Default ECU Connectors & Terminals - Holley EFI

    Avenger, Terminator, HP & Dominator ECUs:
    The ECU connectors are Tyco/AMP sealed 1.0 mm SuperSeal connectors.
    http://www.te.com/content/dam/te-com...erseal-1-0.pdf (Product Catalog)
    http://marketing.powerandsignal.com/...92eR00000176AD (Product Information)

    ECU connector terminals: Tyco/AMP 3-1447221-4 (20/22 AWG), 3-1447221-3 (16/18 AWG)
    White cavity plugs: Tyco/AMP 4-1437284-3. (TE Connectivity is Tyco Electronics)
    High quality TXL wire note: http://www.eficonnection.com/eficonn...onQuality.aspx

    Dominator ECU Connector Plug Kit:
    Holley 558-408 P2A, P2B, P3, P4 Connector & Pin Kit:


    Individual ECU Connector Plugs:
    The P1A connector plug is Tyco 4-1437290-0. (Avenger, Terminator, HP, Dominator ECUs)
    The P1B connector plug is Tyco 3-1437290-7. (Avenger, Terminator, HP, Dominator ECUs)
    The P2A connector plug is Tyco 4-1437290-1. (Dominator ECU only)
    The P2B connector plug is Tyco 1473416-1. (Dominator ECU only)
    The P3 connector plug is Tyco 3-1437290-8. (Dominator ECU only)
    The P4 connector plug is Tyco 1473416-2. (Dominator ECU only)
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    Originally Posted by Danny Cabral
    Dominator Auxiliary Harnesses: https://www.holley.com/products/fuel...efi/harnesses/

    To connect up to 4 Inputs & 4 Outputs to the EFI Main Harness, use I/O Auxiliary Harness 558-400.
    Eight Wire I/O Auxiliary Harness Connector Pin-Out (also in the Holley EFI Wiring Manual - LINK):
    Pin A...A12...White/Blue (Input #1) F,5,2,T,H,G
    Pin B...A3....White/Red (Input #2) F,5,2,T,H,G
    Pin C...A13...White/Black (Input #3) F,5,G
    Pin D...A4....White/Green (Input #4) F,5,G
    Pin E...B12...Gray/Yellow (Output #1) H,P+
    Pin F...B11...Gray/Red (Output #2) H,P+
    Pin G...B10...Gray/Black (Output #3) G,P−
    Pin H...B3....Gray/Green (Output #4) G,P−
    http://documents.holley.com/199r10516.pdf (Holley 558-400 I/O Auxiliary Harness Instructions)

    The 558-400 I/O Auxiliary Harness is 20 feet long.
    It's "plug & play" into the main harness, and an easy way to connect common things like an electric cooling fan (LINK).
    This I/O Auxiliary Harness isn't required for the optional oil & fuel pressure transducers, which are also "plug & play" into the main harness.
    The oil & fuel pressure transducers are used for Data Monitoring, Data Logging and setup Outputs based on oil & fuel pressure.
    NOTES:
    • Installing, removing & relocating (pinning) the ECU connector terminals is easy. No special tools involved.
    Push the single wide white tab to release the lock (on all terminals), and push the two narrow white tabs to re-secure.
    Holley has the P2A, P2B, P3, P4 and other auxiliary harnesses available:
    https://www.holley.com/products/fuel...efi/harnesses/ (Dominator ECU Auxiliary Harnesses - Check Mark "Auxiliary")

    • The harness connectors are Delphi Metri-Pack 150 Series connectors.
    Some of the sensor connectors are Delphi GT 150 Series (with the different colored "key index" insert).
    http://delphi.com/manufacturers/cv/c...ck-connectors/ (Delphi Metri-Pack 150)
    http://delphi.com/pdf/contact/brochures/DCS_GlobalCatalog.pdf (Delphi Global Connection Systems Catalog)

    • I use the same tool for crimping Metri-Pack, Weather-Pack & SuperSeal terminals (ECU connectors).
    This crimping tool is my favorite, is inexpensive, and works very well:
    http://www.whiteproducts.com/tools.shtml (T-18 & T-13 Metri-Pack/Weather-Pack Terminal & Seal Crimper)
    http://documents.holley.com/199r11022.pdf (Holley EFI 567-100 ECU Connector Terminal Crimper)

    • If you're also working with Weather-Pack connectors, the terminal release tool is a necessity:
    http://www.whiteproducts.com/removal_tools.shtml (T-3 Weather-Pack Terminal Release Tool)
    https://www.holley.com/products/acce...s/parts/40011G (Mr. Gasket Terminal Release Tool Kit)

    • If you don't have the actual Metri-Pack terminal release tool, a "safety pin" will work.
    It just needs to be a stiff wire between .030"-.035" in diameter to release the terminal tab.
    Then reopen (bend) the terminal tab before reinsertion, so it will clip (lock) into the cavity.
    http://www.whiteproducts.com/removal_tools.shtml (T-6 Micro Terminal Pick Release Tool)

    • I always use the 16/18 AWG (1.0-0.80 mm²) terminals for Metri-Pack 150 and Weather-Pack connectors.
    If using the smaller diameter 20/22 AWG wire (0.50-0.35 mm²) in a 16/18 AWG terminal, simply strip off twice
    the amount of insulation you normally would, and fold it in half into the larger terminals for proper size crimping.
    http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/aw...uge-d_731.html (AWG to mm² Wire Conversion Table)

    • Not for ECU or other specialty terminals (Tyco, Amphenol, Deutsch, Metri-Pack, Weather-Pack, etc.), but I'll include it here:
    For crimping conventional butt, spade & eyelet connectors, these are the best tools I've used: Insulated & Non-Insulated.
    (Ideal Industries sold the same insulated terminal tool #30-425 as Snap-On PWC30. Currently discontinued, but may still be available.)

    • For crimping large AWG cables (battery/main power), the Quick Cable Cub Crimper #4245 is an excellent tool (LINK).
    Basically, the Quick Cable Cub Crimper continues (8 to 1/0 AWG), where convention hand crimpers stop (10 AWG).
    FYI: When using the Cub Crimper on battery lugs, it works best using a "two crimp" method. First crimp with the next larger size die
    than specified, then final crimp with the correct size die specified. The rotating dies are an integral part of the tool; easy to adjust.
    May God's grace bless you in the Lord Jesus Christ.

    '78 BRONCO: 508" stroker, TFS heads, 11:1 comp ratio, Dominator MPFI & DIS, cold air induction, Spal dual 12" fans/aluminum radiator, dual 3" exhaust/Magnaflow mufflers, Moroso vacuum pump, Accusump, engine oil & trans fluid coolers, 100HP progressive dry direct-port NOS, A/C, LenTech Strip Terminator wide-ratio AOD/2500 RPM converter, 3:1 Atlas II, modified Dana 44/60-lockers-4.10s, hydroboost/4-disc brakes, ram-assist/heim joint steering, Cage long radius arms, traction bars, 4" Skyjacker lift, 35" mud tires

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    Hi Danny. Do you have the connector & terminals source for the MAIN POWER cable? The Holley one is a bit pricey (already got mine), but for the Metri-Pack connector for the ECU cavity, the rest is just wire, and a fuse holder. Thanks, Frank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 383_StealthRam View Post
    Hi Danny. Do you have the connector & terminals source for the MAIN POWER cable?
    The 558-308 Main Power Harness (10 AWG) connector is a Delphi Ducon 6.3 Series female connector assembly. Delphi 12147474 terminals.
    http://www.powerandsignal.com/docs/D...%20Catalog.pdf (Delphi Connection Systems Catalog - page 5.16)
    May God's grace bless you in the Lord Jesus Christ.

    '78 BRONCO: 508" stroker, TFS heads, 11:1 comp ratio, Dominator MPFI & DIS, cold air induction, Spal dual 12" fans/aluminum radiator, dual 3" exhaust/Magnaflow mufflers, Moroso vacuum pump, Accusump, engine oil & trans fluid coolers, 100HP progressive dry direct-port NOS, A/C, LenTech Strip Terminator wide-ratio AOD/2500 RPM converter, 3:1 Atlas II, modified Dana 44/60-lockers-4.10s, hydroboost/4-disc brakes, ram-assist/heim joint steering, Cage long radius arms, traction bars, 4" Skyjacker lift, 35" mud tires

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    Awesome, thank you!

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    Danny, do you have a link to the pins & connector if I wanted to make my own 558-400 harness?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ButchB View Post
    Danny, do you have a link to the pins & connector if I wanted to make my own 558-400 harness?
    The 558-400 I/O Auxiliary Harness connector is a black, eight cavity Delphi Metri-Pack 150 Series connector with eight male terminals.
    http://www.powerandsignal.com/docs/D...%20Catalog.pdf (Delphi Connection Systems Catalog - Page 2.16)
    May God's grace bless you in the Lord Jesus Christ.

    '78 BRONCO: 508" stroker, TFS heads, 11:1 comp ratio, Dominator MPFI & DIS, cold air induction, Spal dual 12" fans/aluminum radiator, dual 3" exhaust/Magnaflow mufflers, Moroso vacuum pump, Accusump, engine oil & trans fluid coolers, 100HP progressive dry direct-port NOS, A/C, LenTech Strip Terminator wide-ratio AOD/2500 RPM converter, 3:1 Atlas II, modified Dana 44/60-lockers-4.10s, hydroboost/4-disc brakes, ram-assist/heim joint steering, Cage long radius arms, traction bars, 4" Skyjacker lift, 35" mud tires

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    Default TPS Connector?

    Anyone know the part number for the TPS connector? I think it's a Delphi Metri-Pack 150 Pull-To-Seat, but not finding it in the Delphi catalog?

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    Some of the sensor connectors (such as TPS, MAP, A/C, Fuel & Oil) are Delphi GT 150 Series, with the different colored "key index" insert.
    https://www.eficonnection.com/home/p...le-connector-2 (EFI Connection - GT Series 3.5 mm Centerline)
    https://www.eficonnection.com/home/p...male-connector (EFI Connection - Metri-Pack Series 150)
    https://www.eficonnection.com/home/c...ors/connectors (EFI Connection - Connector & Terminal Search)
    http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/Ca...C89_0334770496 (NAPA/Echlin EC89 TPS, MAP, A/C, Fuel & Oil Connector Pigtail)
    http://www.summitracing.com/parts/pco-5643pt (Pico Wiring 5643PT TPS, MAP, A/C, Fuel & Oil Connector Pigtail)
    http://www.summitracing.com/parts/smp-s619 (Standard Motor Products S619 TPS, MAP, A/C, Fuel & Oil Connector Pigtail)
    http://www.rockauto.com/en/parts/sta...connector,2624 (Standard Motor Products S619 TPS, MAP, A/C, Fuel & Oil Connector Pigtail)
    http://www.repairconnector.com/produ...e-Tri-Way.html (Pico 5643C TPS, MAP, A/C, Fuel & Oil Connector Repair Connector Pigtail)
    https://theelectricaldepot.com/index...oducts_id=1584 (Delphi 12065287 TPS, MAP, A/C, Fuel & Oil Connector - Connector Only)
    http://forums.holley.com/showthread....4397#post54397 (TPS/Transducer Extension Harness)

    The Metri-Pack 150 sensor connector (TPS, MAP, A/C, Fuel & Oil) is not a Metri-Pack Series 150.2 connector body (LINK).
    #12103881 16/18 AWG (1.0-0.80 mm²) Metri-Pack 150 "Pull-To-Seat" terminals.
    #12089290 20/22 AWG (0.50-0.35 mm²) Metri-Pack 150 "Pull-To-Seat" terminals.
    The Delphi Metri-Pack 150.2 terminals have a flag for the newer slotted connectors (flat connectors, not round like TPS).

    If you're installing an additional transducer (as opposed to repairing an existing transducer connector), the
    Delphi Metri-Pack 150 connector is much better (LINK). I don't like the Delphi GT 150 style connector (LINK).
    https://www.eficonnection.com/home/c...ector-pigtails (Select the connector at left and click "Filter", then its terminal will be listed below.)
    May God's grace bless you in the Lord Jesus Christ.

    '78 BRONCO: 508" stroker, TFS heads, 11:1 comp ratio, Dominator MPFI & DIS, cold air induction, Spal dual 12" fans/aluminum radiator, dual 3" exhaust/Magnaflow mufflers, Moroso vacuum pump, Accusump, engine oil & trans fluid coolers, 100HP progressive dry direct-port NOS, A/C, LenTech Strip Terminator wide-ratio AOD/2500 RPM converter, 3:1 Atlas II, modified Dana 44/60-lockers-4.10s, hydroboost/4-disc brakes, ram-assist/heim joint steering, Cage long radius arms, traction bars, 4" Skyjacker lift, 35" mud tires

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    Danny, do you know the part number for the harness side 8-way Metri-Pack connector for the NTK WBO2? Is the CAN connector a Metri-Pack 150?

    By the way, thanks to all the help on here (and some other places too). I made my own main harness for my dragster.
    Also made my own 16 injector harness. Car runs good. I do have one WBO2 working out of P2A, and need to get the primary one going, so I can try Closed Loop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Kelley View Post
    Danny, do you know the part number for the harness side 8-way Metri-Pack connector for the NTK WBO2?
    See posts #8 & #14. It's a black, eight cavity Delphi Metri-Pack 150 Series connector:
    http://www.powerandsignal.com/docs/D...%20Catalog.pdf (Delphi Connection Systems Catalog - Page 2.16)

    FYI: These Delphi Metri-Pack connectors are color coded with corresponding slots.
    If plugging into an existing connector, the color of the connector isn't a "choice".

    Is the CAN connector a Metri-Pack 150?
    Yes.
    May God's grace bless you in the Lord Jesus Christ.

    '78 BRONCO: 508" stroker, TFS heads, 11:1 comp ratio, Dominator MPFI & DIS, cold air induction, Spal dual 12" fans/aluminum radiator, dual 3" exhaust/Magnaflow mufflers, Moroso vacuum pump, Accusump, engine oil & trans fluid coolers, 100HP progressive dry direct-port NOS, A/C, LenTech Strip Terminator wide-ratio AOD/2500 RPM converter, 3:1 Atlas II, modified Dana 44/60-lockers-4.10s, hydroboost/4-disc brakes, ram-assist/heim joint steering, Cage long radius arms, traction bars, 4" Skyjacker lift, 35" mud tires

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