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    Default New Guy here and still installing Terminator.

    Hi, Just a few questions, apologies if they are dumb.
    1. Does it matter which fuel inlet I use as the feed? I'm trying to find a good place to mount my regulator, and it would make life easier if I could put it off of the rear most port.
    2. Does Holley offer a fuel pressure regulator bracket similar to those offered for the 4150 style carbs?
    3. Is the harness long enough to reach the glove box on a 1970 GM A Body (Chevelle, Monte Carlo, etc.)?
    I have a heater box installed in the car, it looks like it can reach but wanted to make sure. Thanks for the help!

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    1.) No, it can flow through either way.

    2.) No clue, but someone else likely will.

    3.) I have my computer on the floor of my '98 Camaro and it is ran over the A/C evaporator, then down to pass through the firewall and to the ECU. I have some slack, so there is a good chance. However your car might be a little bigger than mine. Then again, the Terminator last may be a little longer, never laid them next to each other to be sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dickens View Post
    1.) No, it can flow through either way.
    2.) No clue, but someone else likely will.
    3.) I have my computer on the floor of my '98 Camaro and it is ran over the A/C evaporator, then down to pass through the firewall and to the ECU. I have some slack, so there is a good chance. However your car might be a little bigger than mine. Then again, the Terminator last may be a little longer, never laid them next to each other to be sure.
    Yeah, that's where I'm unsure as well. I think a friend has one, I'll give it a shot. Thanks, Mason

    Quote Originally Posted by Danny Cabral View Post
    The EFI fuel pressure regulator includes the mounting bracket, and it's the same fit as a carbureted type regulator. So the EFI regulator will fit the carburetor style bracket. However, I'm not sure if the carburetor style bracket actually fits the Terminator throttle body.
    This is where I'm unsure as well. I got a -6 to -6 90° elbow and mocked it up with it hanging in just free space, and I'm not getting the warm & fuzzy that will work. Pretty sure engine vibration and the weight will shake that loose. Next best place for me is on the fender well, but then I have to trapeze a line from the return port of the TBI to the regulator on the inner fender. I was hoping there was a bracket that mounted it like the carbureted versions can be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bad.samaritan View Post
    2. Does Holley offer a fuel pressure regulator bracket similar to those offered for the 4150 style carbs?
    The EFI fuel pressure regulator includes the mounting bracket, and it's the same fit as a carbureted type regulator. So the EFI regulator will fit the carburetor style bracket. However, I'm not sure if the carburetor style bracket actually fits the Terminator throttle body.
    May God's grace bless you in the Lord Jesus Christ.
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    Hey guys. I got passed all of that stuff, and after some issues getting a hold of an MSD computer controlled distributor, I purchased the Holley one. I have it installed, but I'm wondering about wiring. My old distributor (MSD E-curve) had a lead coming out of the distributor for a tach signal. I'm guessing now I just run my tach wire over to the negative side of the coil?

    The directions say to just plug it into the ignition port of the harness, are there any other connections? I was wondering if the yellow wire from the harness needed to be connected to the coil.

    If there's a link with a diagram that would help a lot. I went through the directions for the Terminator system, and the closest thing in there was the GM small cap computer controlled distributor. Thanks for all the help. Ray

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    Quote Originally Posted by bad.samaritan View Post
    I'm guessing now I just run my tach wire over to the negative side of the coil?
    Yes, if this wasn't a CD ignition box application. For CD ignition box applications, connect the tach wire to the CDI box (or gray wire on newer CDI boxes).

    I was wondering if the yellow wire from the harness needed to be connected to the coil.
    No: http://documents.holley.com/199r10653rev10.pdf (Terminator EFI Manual, Pages 12 & 13)
    May God's grace bless you in the Lord Jesus Christ.
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    Thanks Danny!

    I'm having a hard time finding a Switched +12V circuit I can use for the red/white wire coming from the harness. Is it possible to use the "IGN" post on my fuse box to power a relay? Not sure if it makes a difference, but the IGN port on the fuse block is where the coil gets its power.
    Last edited by bad.samaritan; 05-21-2016 at 03:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bad.samaritan View Post
    I'm having a hard time finding a Switched +12V circuit I can use for the red/white wire coming from the harness.
    The ignition switch must have a wire that's powered in "run" and "crank" key positions.
    http://forums.holley.com/showthread....7075#post27075 (Related Forum Post)
    May God's grace bless you in the Lord Jesus Christ.
    '92 Ford Mustang GT: 385" SBF, Dart SHP 8.2 block, TFS TW 11R 205 heads, 11.8:1 comp, TFS R-Series intake, Dominator MPFI & DIS, 36-1 crank trigger/1x cam sync, 160A 3G alternator, Optima Red battery, A/C, 100HP progressive dry direct-port NOS, Spal dual 12" fans/3-core Frostbite aluminum radiator, Pypes dual 2.5" exhaust/off-road X-pipe/shorty headers, S&W subframe connectors, LenTech Strip Terminator wide-ratio AOD/2800 RPM converter, M4602G aluminum driveshaft, FRPP 3.31 gears, Cobra Trac-Lok differential, Moser 31 spline axles, '04 Cobra 4-disc brakes, '93 Cobra booster & M/C, 5-lug Bullitt wheels & 245/45R17 tires.

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    Went to set timing, and no spark. Got +12V to the coil, +12V to the output terminal of the coil, checked the fuse in the Terminator harness and it was fine. Timing light won't fire, and no spark when I put the plug on the block and crank it. Software is showing RPM, so I'm assuming the distributor is getting power. I'm charging the battery, was only getting 12.5 at rest.

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    http://forums.holley.com/showthread....5760#post45760 (Scroll down to "Typical No-Start Checks".)
    The +12V Hall-Effect crank & cam sensors and CDI box are wired as shown in the Holley EFI Wiring Manual:
    http://documents.holley.com/techlibr...10555rev17.pdf (Holley EFI Wiring Manual - Figure 11/12, Page 20/21)
    Also, ensure the Switched +12V red/white wire is powered in the "Run" and "Crank" key positions.
    May God's grace bless you in the Lord Jesus Christ.
    '92 Ford Mustang GT: 385" SBF, Dart SHP 8.2 block, TFS TW 11R 205 heads, 11.8:1 comp, TFS R-Series intake, Dominator MPFI & DIS, 36-1 crank trigger/1x cam sync, 160A 3G alternator, Optima Red battery, A/C, 100HP progressive dry direct-port NOS, Spal dual 12" fans/3-core Frostbite aluminum radiator, Pypes dual 2.5" exhaust/off-road X-pipe/shorty headers, S&W subframe connectors, LenTech Strip Terminator wide-ratio AOD/2800 RPM converter, M4602G aluminum driveshaft, FRPP 3.31 gears, Cobra Trac-Lok differential, Moser 31 spline axles, '04 Cobra 4-disc brakes, '93 Cobra booster & M/C, 5-lug Bullitt wheels & 245/45R17 tires.

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