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Thread: Ford 390 FE Distributor With Dual Terminator Setup

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dep200 View Post
    Should work, will just likely have to machine the center opening to the FE's crankshaft, and make a bracket for the sensor.
    FYI: Ensure your 60-2 trigger wheel design is rotationally adjustable.
    It needs to be correctly positioned when it's mounted on the engine:
    http://forums.holley.com/showthread....m-Sensor-Setup (Crank & Cam Sensor Setup)
    http://forums.holley.com/showthread....5444#post45444 (Additional Information)

    So we're clear, you can't use the Holley 554-118 crank sensor on a missing tooth type trigger wheel.
    Only the MSD Flying Magnet type 6x, 5x, 4x, 3x, 2x crank trigger kits will accept the Holley 554-118 crank sensor.
    The Holley 554-118 Hall-Effect crank sensor is for a 6x, 5x, 4x, 3x & 2x magnetic type trigger wheels (LINK - Figure 1).
    The Holley 554-118 crank sensor is only used with a magnetic trigger wheel; it will not detect a ferrous steel target.

    The Holley 554-127 Hall-Effect crank/cam sensor (magnetic bolt included) is for a magnetic target type trigger wheel.
    The Holley 554-127 crank/cam sensor is only used with a magnetic trigger wheel; it will not detect a ferrous steel target.

    The Holley 554-125 Hall-Effect crank/cam sensor (magnetic bolt not included) is for a magnetic target type trigger wheel.
    The Holley 554-125 crank/cam sensor is only used with a magnetic trigger wheel; it will not detect a ferrous steel target.

    The Holley 554-124 Hall-Effect crank/cam sensor is for a missing teeth type trigger wheel (12-1, 24-1, 36-1, 60-2, etc.).
    The Holley 554-124 crank/cam sensor is only used with a ferrous steel trigger wheel; it will not detect spinning magnets.

    The Holley 554-117 Hall-Effect crank/cam sensor is for a missing teeth type trigger wheel (12-1, 24-1, 36-1, 60-2, etc.).
    The Holley 554-117 crank/cam sensor is only used with a ferrous steel trigger wheel; it will not detect spinning magnets.
    May God's grace bless you in the Lord Jesus Christ.
    '92 Ford Mustang GT: 385" SBF, Dart SHP 8.2 block, TFS TW 11R 205 heads, 11.8:1 comp, TFS R-Series intake, Dominator MPFI & DIS, 36-1 crank trigger/1x cam sync, 160A 3G alternator, Optima Red battery, A/C, 100HP progressive dry direct-port NOS, Spal dual 12" fans/3-core Frostbite aluminum radiator, Pypes dual 2.5" exhaust/off-road X-pipe/shorty headers, S&W subframe connectors, LenTech Strip Terminator wide-ratio AOD/2800 RPM converter, M4602G aluminum driveshaft, FRPP 3.31 gears, Cobra Trac-Lok differential, Moser 31 spline axles, '04 Cobra 4-disc brakes, '93 Cobra booster & M/C, 5-lug Bullitt wheels & 245/45R17 tires.

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    Danny, if I understand everything correctly, the setup I would like to use is thus;
    1) Holley's DIS 556-101.
    Innovator's West FE Ford Crank Trigger Sensor Mount.
    Innovator's West Flying Magnet Crank Trigger Sensor.
    OR
    2) Holley's DIS 556-101.
    Holley's 554-118 Hall-Effect Crank Sensor, MSD 4x Flying Magnet crank trigger kit.
    MSD shows for Ford Big Blocks from 1975 & up. I'll have to check with them to see if this will work on a
    '69 FE. MSD has stopped making the FE kit, but will look around to see if any are still for sale someplace.

    Side note:
    "So we're clear, you can't use the Holley 554-118 crank sensor on a missing tooth type trigger wheel.
    Only the MSD
    Flying Magnet type 4x, 3x, 2x crank trigger kits will accept the Holley 554-118 crank sensor."
    This would not work with Innovator's West, correct? Dep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dep200 View Post
    Danny, if I understand everything correctly, the setup I would like to use is thus;
    1) Holley's DIS 556-101.
    Innovator's West FE Ford Crank Trigger Sensor Mount.
    Innovator's West Flying Magnet Crank Trigger Sensor.
    OR
    2) Holley's DIS 556-101.
    Holley's 554-118 Hall-Effect Crank Sensor, MSD 4x Flying Magnet crank trigger kit.
    Yes, but a 4x type crank trigger kit will also require a cam sync unit for the distributorless ignition (DIS, CNP, etc.).
    A missing tooth type crank trigger kit does not. So you may want to install the 60-2 crank trigger kit, for that reason.

    MSD shows for Ford Big Blocks from 1975 & up. I'll have to check with them to see if this will work on a
    '69 FE. MSD has stopped making the FE kit, but will look around to see if any are still for sale someplace.
    No, the big block Ford MSD Flying Magnet crank trigger kit will not "fit" a Ford FE engine.

    Side note:
    "So we're clear, you can't use the Holley 554-118 crank sensor on a missing tooth type trigger wheel.
    Only the MSD
    Flying Magnet type 4x, 3x, 2x crank trigger kits will accept the Holley 554-118 crank sensor."
    This would not work with Innovator's West, correct?
    Yes, Holley's 554-118 Hall-Effect crank sensor is a direct replacement for MSD's Flying
    Magnet crank trigger kit, which is what the Innovator's West crank trigger kit is based on.
    May God's grace bless you in the Lord Jesus Christ.
    '92 Ford Mustang GT: 385" SBF, Dart SHP 8.2 block, TFS TW 11R 205 heads, 11.8:1 comp, TFS R-Series intake, Dominator MPFI & DIS, 36-1 crank trigger/1x cam sync, 160A 3G alternator, Optima Red battery, A/C, 100HP progressive dry direct-port NOS, Spal dual 12" fans/3-core Frostbite aluminum radiator, Pypes dual 2.5" exhaust/off-road X-pipe/shorty headers, S&W subframe connectors, LenTech Strip Terminator wide-ratio AOD/2800 RPM converter, M4602G aluminum driveshaft, FRPP 3.31 gears, Cobra Trac-Lok differential, Moser 31 spline axles, '04 Cobra 4-disc brakes, '93 Cobra booster & M/C, 5-lug Bullitt wheels & 245/45R17 tires.

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    Danny, thank you so very much for all your help. You are awesome. I have my plan now:
    Holley 556-101
    Holley 554-118 Crank Sensor
    Innovator's West Crank Trigger Mount Kit
    Sweet! Dep.
    Last edited by Dep200; 01-31-2016 at 01:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dep200 View Post
    I have my plan now:
    Holley 556-101
    Holley 554-118 Crank Sensor
    Innovator's West Crank Trigger Mount Kit
    What are you doing about the required cam sync sensor/unit? Converting your existing distributor to a cam sync unit?
    May God's grace bless you in the Lord Jesus Christ.
    '92 Ford Mustang GT: 385" SBF, Dart SHP 8.2 block, TFS TW 11R 205 heads, 11.8:1 comp, TFS R-Series intake, Dominator MPFI & DIS, 36-1 crank trigger/1x cam sync, 160A 3G alternator, Optima Red battery, A/C, 100HP progressive dry direct-port NOS, Spal dual 12" fans/3-core Frostbite aluminum radiator, Pypes dual 2.5" exhaust/off-road X-pipe/shorty headers, S&W subframe connectors, LenTech Strip Terminator wide-ratio AOD/2800 RPM converter, M4602G aluminum driveshaft, FRPP 3.31 gears, Cobra Trac-Lok differential, Moser 31 spline axles, '04 Cobra 4-disc brakes, '93 Cobra booster & M/C, 5-lug Bullitt wheels & 245/45R17 tires.

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    Danny, I was tossing around going non-sequential at the moment as funds are tight. I have a Mallory Unilite in there right now, plus a stock distributor. If necessary I would convert a stock distributor. Plus I want to contact that one company that you mentioned, about possibly purchasing just their cam sync unit.

    Thanks, Dep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dep200 View Post
    Danny, I was tossing around going non-sequential at the moment as funds are tight.
    NO! Waste-spark DIS with a 4x crank trigger, must have a cam sync sensor/unit for TDC reference (sequentially injected or not). It's not an option, nor is it for sequential injection on a TBI system. A missing tooth type crank trigger kit does not require a cam sync sensor/unit with waste-spark DIS.
    May God's grace bless you in the Lord Jesus Christ.
    '92 Ford Mustang GT: 385" SBF, Dart SHP 8.2 block, TFS TW 11R 205 heads, 11.8:1 comp, TFS R-Series intake, Dominator MPFI & DIS, 36-1 crank trigger/1x cam sync, 160A 3G alternator, Optima Red battery, A/C, 100HP progressive dry direct-port NOS, Spal dual 12" fans/3-core Frostbite aluminum radiator, Pypes dual 2.5" exhaust/off-road X-pipe/shorty headers, S&W subframe connectors, LenTech Strip Terminator wide-ratio AOD/2800 RPM converter, M4602G aluminum driveshaft, FRPP 3.31 gears, Cobra Trac-Lok differential, Moser 31 spline axles, '04 Cobra 4-disc brakes, '93 Cobra booster & M/C, 5-lug Bullitt wheels & 245/45R17 tires.

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    Danny, thank you. My BIG misunderstanding. I'll check on that cam sync unit to see if it's available by itself, and see about modifying my stock distributor as an alternative, as well as take a second look at the 60-2 crank trigger kits.

    I just fired off an email to Compu-Tronix on their cam sync unit, to see if it's compatible with Holley 556-101 DIS, and if it's available by itself. I apologize, got information overload this weekend, and really appreciate all your help. Dep.
    Last edited by Dep200; 02-01-2016 at 08:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dep200 View Post
    I apologize, got information overload this weekend, and really appreciate all your help.
    No problem, I just didn't want you running into any unforeseen problems.
    And yes, I've been accused (and guilty) of information overload. LOL!
    May God's grace bless you in the Lord Jesus Christ.
    '92 Ford Mustang GT: 385" SBF, Dart SHP 8.2 block, TFS TW 11R 205 heads, 11.8:1 comp, TFS R-Series intake, Dominator MPFI & DIS, 36-1 crank trigger/1x cam sync, 160A 3G alternator, Optima Red battery, A/C, 100HP progressive dry direct-port NOS, Spal dual 12" fans/3-core Frostbite aluminum radiator, Pypes dual 2.5" exhaust/off-road X-pipe/shorty headers, S&W subframe connectors, LenTech Strip Terminator wide-ratio AOD/2800 RPM converter, M4602G aluminum driveshaft, FRPP 3.31 gears, Cobra Trac-Lok differential, Moser 31 spline axles, '04 Cobra 4-disc brakes, '93 Cobra booster & M/C, 5-lug Bullitt wheels & 245/45R17 tires.

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    Danny, I'll never accuse you of that. I have spent the better part of a year & a half, trying to find the information you provided me within just a weekend. You've provided me with so many options, I can't express my gratitude for your assistance. You're totally awesome, and thank you so very much. Dep.

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