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    Danny, I was checking TDC with the reluctor wheel from EFI and it's 14 teeth after the two missing. Is this too many? I know you have said 9, 10 or 11. Tom

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    Quote Originally Posted by FuelieNova View Post
    Danny, I was checking TDC with the reluctor wheel from EFI and it's 14 teeth after the two missing. Is this too many?
    The Holley 60-2 crank trigger manual states, "If the 11th tooth is not possible, use the 12-20th tooth."
    https://www.holley.com/document/199r10562.pdf (Step 5, Page 2)
    The 14th TDC tooth isn't too bad. This is more than the usual amount of reference angle advance, but just fine for a street engine.
    On a high RPM race engine, I'd keep the amount of ECU retard (occurring from such an advanced reference angle) to a minimum.
    http://www.masterenginetuner.com/und...nition-p2.html (Read Last Paragraph)
    http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/sh...6#post16624626 (Additional Information - Installed Ignition Reference Angle Retard)
    http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/sh...4#post23304354 (Missing Teeth, #1 Crank Position/Cam Sync, Compression Stroke)
    May God's grace bless you in the Lord Jesus Christ.
    '92 Ford Mustang GT: 385" SBF, Dart SHP 8.2 block, TFS TW 11R 205 heads, 11.8:1 comp, TFS R-Series intake, Dominator MPFI & DIS, 36-1 crank trigger/1x cam sync, 160A 3G alternator, Optima Red battery, A/C, 100HP progressive dry direct-port NOS, Spal dual 12" fans/3-core Frostbite aluminum radiator, Pypes dual 2.5" exhaust/off-road X-pipe/shorty headers, S&W subframe connectors, LenTech Strip Terminator wide-ratio AOD/2800 RPM converter, M4602G aluminum driveshaft, FRPP 3.31 gears, Cobra Trac-Lok differential, Moser 31 spline axles, '04 Cobra 4-disc brakes, '93 Cobra booster & M/C, 5-lug Bullitt wheels & 245/45R17 tires.

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    Thanks for walking all of us through our problems. Tom

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    You're welcome. I edited my post above...the 14th TDC tooth isn't bad at all.
    May God's grace bless you in the Lord Jesus Christ.
    '92 Ford Mustang GT: 385" SBF, Dart SHP 8.2 block, TFS TW 11R 205 heads, 11.8:1 comp, TFS R-Series intake, Dominator MPFI & DIS, 36-1 crank trigger/1x cam sync, 160A 3G alternator, Optima Red battery, A/C, 100HP progressive dry direct-port NOS, Spal dual 12" fans/3-core Frostbite aluminum radiator, Pypes dual 2.5" exhaust/off-road X-pipe/shorty headers, S&W subframe connectors, LenTech Strip Terminator wide-ratio AOD/2800 RPM converter, M4602G aluminum driveshaft, FRPP 3.31 gears, Cobra Trac-Lok differential, Moser 31 spline axles, '04 Cobra 4-disc brakes, '93 Cobra booster & M/C, 5-lug Bullitt wheels & 245/45R17 tires.

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    You are now labeled "Danny...The EFI Shrink". Tom

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    If I'm alleviating EFI related stress/frustration for some people, that's an added bonus! Holley EFI customers are happy customers. LOL!
    May God's grace bless you in the Lord Jesus Christ.
    '92 Ford Mustang GT: 385" SBF, Dart SHP 8.2 block, TFS TW 11R 205 heads, 11.8:1 comp, TFS R-Series intake, Dominator MPFI & DIS, 36-1 crank trigger/1x cam sync, 160A 3G alternator, Optima Red battery, A/C, 100HP progressive dry direct-port NOS, Spal dual 12" fans/3-core Frostbite aluminum radiator, Pypes dual 2.5" exhaust/off-road X-pipe/shorty headers, S&W subframe connectors, LenTech Strip Terminator wide-ratio AOD/2800 RPM converter, M4602G aluminum driveshaft, FRPP 3.31 gears, Cobra Trac-Lok differential, Moser 31 spline axles, '04 Cobra 4-disc brakes, '93 Cobra booster & M/C, 5-lug Bullitt wheels & 245/45R17 tires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny Cabral View Post
    Yeah, you can do that with a die grinder (carbide burr) & Dremel tool. First inscribe the area with a sharp scribe (pick) tool.
    So tonight I machined down the solid section of my EFI Connection reluctor wheel and guess what...now I only have 57 teeth! Talk about an expensive lesson
    Tom

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    Quote Originally Posted by FuelieNova View Post
    ...now I only have 57 teeth! Talk about an expensive lesson
    Oh no...what happened?
    May God's grace bless you in the Lord Jesus Christ.
    '92 Ford Mustang GT: 385" SBF, Dart SHP 8.2 block, TFS TW 11R 205 heads, 11.8:1 comp, TFS R-Series intake, Dominator MPFI & DIS, 36-1 crank trigger/1x cam sync, 160A 3G alternator, Optima Red battery, A/C, 100HP progressive dry direct-port NOS, Spal dual 12" fans/3-core Frostbite aluminum radiator, Pypes dual 2.5" exhaust/off-road X-pipe/shorty headers, S&W subframe connectors, LenTech Strip Terminator wide-ratio AOD/2800 RPM converter, M4602G aluminum driveshaft, FRPP 3.31 gears, Cobra Trac-Lok differential, Moser 31 spline axles, '04 Cobra 4-disc brakes, '93 Cobra booster & M/C, 5-lug Bullitt wheels & 245/45R17 tires.

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    I have no idea, just ground the solid section and counted the teeth. EFI Connection is being very cool about it and will help me out if I choose to continue with this setup.

    He made a very interesting comment. He said that their 58x reluctor wheel has two solid teeth but that when using a Vortec sensor the signal is inverted and he felt the setup would work with the Holley. In other words the signal would be low when the solid section comes around.

    I'm considering cutting my loses and going with the Holley crank setup. I really really liked the cleanliness of the EFI Connection setup with the reluctor behind the timing cover, and the sensor mounted into the timing cover behind the damper. Tom

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    Quote Originally Posted by FuelieNova View Post
    He made a very interesting comment. He said that their 58x reluctor wheel has two solid teeth but that when using a Vortec sensor the signal is inverted and he felt the setup would work with the Holley. In other words the signal would be low when the solid section comes around.
    You can be the one to test that theory...I won't. Holley's 60-2 crank trigger wheel has the depth of the two missing teeth, the same as the other teeth. It works.

    I'm considering cutting my loses and going with the Holley crank setup. I really really liked the cleanliness of the EFI Connection setup with the reluctor behind the timing cover, and the sensor mounted into the timing cover behind the damper.
    A good welder/fabricator could weld & machine the 58th tooth back on for you.
    May God's grace bless you in the Lord Jesus Christ.
    '92 Ford Mustang GT: 385" SBF, Dart SHP 8.2 block, TFS TW 11R 205 heads, 11.8:1 comp, TFS R-Series intake, Dominator MPFI & DIS, 36-1 crank trigger/1x cam sync, 160A 3G alternator, Optima Red battery, A/C, 100HP progressive dry direct-port NOS, Spal dual 12" fans/3-core Frostbite aluminum radiator, Pypes dual 2.5" exhaust/off-road X-pipe/shorty headers, S&W subframe connectors, LenTech Strip Terminator wide-ratio AOD/2800 RPM converter, M4602G aluminum driveshaft, FRPP 3.31 gears, Cobra Trac-Lok differential, Moser 31 spline axles, '04 Cobra 4-disc brakes, '93 Cobra booster & M/C, 5-lug Bullitt wheels & 245/45R17 tires.

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