Can you change the "Reference Timing Angle" after you set it up to 50° BTDC? I'm thinking you could go in, set RTA to 60° in the menus and then lock your timing to 15°, resync the distributor and now you've effectively changed the RTA from 50 to 60? Does that make any sense?
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Originally posted by zeppelin264 View PostCan you change the "Reference Timing Angle" after you set it up to 50° BTDC?May God's grace bless you in the Lord Jesus Christ.
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The reason for the 10° difference, is so that the computer has time to calculate where it needs to land the timing. In theory it should only take 1°-3° worth of time to calculate this. So if it's working then I doubt you'll have any issues, but according to Holley, you should have a reference angle of 60°.
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Originally posted by rel3rd View PostDanny, what does that mean for someone like me, who runs 50° cruise timing? Would I still set the Reference Angle at 60°?May God's grace bless you in the Lord Jesus Christ.
'92 Ford Mustang GT: 385"/6.3L SBF, Dart SHP 8.2 block, forged steel crankshaft & H-beam rods, forged pistons, Trick Flow Twisted Wedge 11R 205 CNC Comp Ported heads, 12:1 compression ratio, 232°-244° duration/.623" lift/114° LSA camshaft, TFS R-Series FTI Comp Ported intake, BBK 80mm throttle body, Holley Dominator MPFI & DIS, Holley 36-1 crank trigger, MSD 1x cam sync, PA PMGR starter, PA 200A 3G alternator, Optima 34/78 Red battery, 100HP progressive dry direct-port NOS, R134a A/C, Spal Dual 12" HP 3168 CFM fans, Frostbite 3-core aluminum radiator, Pypes dual 2.5" exhaust, off-road X-pipe, shorty headers, Earl's -6AN fuel system plumbing, Walbro 255 LPH in-tank pump & Pro-M -6AN hanger, S&W subframe connectors, BMR upper & lower torque box reinforcements, LenTech Strip Terminator wide-ratio Ford AOD, 10" 3000 RPM C6 billet converter, B&M Hammer shifter, Stifflers transmission crossmember & driveshaft safety loop, FPP aluminum driveshaft, FPP 3.31 gears, Cobra Trac-Lok differential, Moser 31 spline axles, '04 Cobra 4-disc brakes, '93 Cobra booster & M/C, 5-lug Bullitt wheels & 245/45R17 M/T Street Comp tires.
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Originally posted by rel3rd View PostDanny, what does that mean for someone like me, who runs 50° cruise timing? Would I still set the Reference Angle at 60°?Originally posted by zeppelin264 View PostThe reason for the 10° difference, is so that the computer has time to calculate where it needs to land the timing. In theory it should only take 1°-3° worth of time to calculate this. So if it's working then I doubt you'll have any issues, but according to Holley, you should have a reference angle of 60°.Originally posted by Danny Cabral View Posthttps://forums.holley.com/showthread...8860#post88860 (Related Forum Post)
Danny mentioned the Dual Sync & 50°, and I was just curious if the same rules applied. I believe they do, just wanted to be sure.
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Yes, the same Ignition Reference Angle rules apply, but not necessarily 50°. EFI distributors have an inherent Ignition Reference Angle built-in, and if you change it, the rotor-phasing will be off. I once made this mistake with my old Mallory Hall-Effect EFI billet distributor (which I converted to my cam sync unit - LINK). I was wondering why I had to replace the cap & rotor so often (burnt terminals).
Testing the MSD CD ignition box.
Points Output - white wire & Magnetic Pickup - violet/green triggering:
https://www.msdperformance.com/suppo...ng_techniques/ (Troubleshooting Info)
I would also ensure the distributor's "rotor phasing" is correct:
http://documents.msdperformance.com/8644_tb.pdf (MSD Rotor Phasing Document)
MSD has a good video on why it's important:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWMlNwGW0tM (MSD Tech - Rotor Phasing Video)
For naturally aspirated engines, the rotor is usually phased halfway between minimum & maximum amount of timing advance used.
For forced induction engines, the rotor is usually phased at maximum boost retard, because that's when cylinder pressure is the greatest.May God's grace bless you in the Lord Jesus Christ.
'92 Ford Mustang GT: 385"/6.3L SBF, Dart SHP 8.2 block, forged steel crankshaft & H-beam rods, forged pistons, Trick Flow Twisted Wedge 11R 205 CNC Comp Ported heads, 12:1 compression ratio, 232°-244° duration/.623" lift/114° LSA camshaft, TFS R-Series FTI Comp Ported intake, BBK 80mm throttle body, Holley Dominator MPFI & DIS, Holley 36-1 crank trigger, MSD 1x cam sync, PA PMGR starter, PA 200A 3G alternator, Optima 34/78 Red battery, 100HP progressive dry direct-port NOS, R134a A/C, Spal Dual 12" HP 3168 CFM fans, Frostbite 3-core aluminum radiator, Pypes dual 2.5" exhaust, off-road X-pipe, shorty headers, Earl's -6AN fuel system plumbing, Walbro 255 LPH in-tank pump & Pro-M -6AN hanger, S&W subframe connectors, BMR upper & lower torque box reinforcements, LenTech Strip Terminator wide-ratio Ford AOD, 10" 3000 RPM C6 billet converter, B&M Hammer shifter, Stifflers transmission crossmember & driveshaft safety loop, FPP aluminum driveshaft, FPP 3.31 gears, Cobra Trac-Lok differential, Moser 31 spline axles, '04 Cobra 4-disc brakes, '93 Cobra booster & M/C, 5-lug Bullitt wheels & 245/45R17 M/T Street Comp tires.
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