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  • #16
    Originally posted by rhecox View Post
    My transducers came with pigtail connectors, but I want to terminate them to my original harness without splicing.
    But that appears to be the same connector that's included with the Holley EFI transducers (Delphi 15477863).
    You could have just purchased the connector terminals separately, for the Holley pigtail assembly.
    May God's grace bless you in the Lord Jesus Christ.
    '92 Ford Mustang GT: 385"/6.3L SBF, Dart SHP 8.2 block, forged steel crankshaft & H-beam rods, forged pistons, Trick Flow Twisted Wedge 11R 205 CNC Comp Ported heads, 12:1 compression ratio, 232°-244° duration/.623" lift/114° LSA camshaft, TFS R-Series FTI Comp Ported intake, BBK 80mm throttle body, Holley Dominator MPFI & DIS, Holley 36-1 crank trigger, MSD 1x cam sync, PA PMGR starter, PA 200A 3G alternator, Optima 34/78 Red battery, 100HP progressive dry direct-port NOS, R134a A/C, Spal Dual 12" HP 3168 CFM fans, Frostbite 3-core aluminum radiator, Pypes dual 2.5" exhaust, off-road X-pipe, shorty headers, Earl's -6AN fuel system plumbing, Walbro 255 LPH in-tank pump & Pro-M -6AN hanger, S&W subframe connectors, BMR upper & lower torque box reinforcements, LenTech Strip Terminator wide-ratio Ford AOD, 10" 3000 RPM C6 billet converter, B&M Hammer shifter, Stifflers transmission crossmember & driveshaft safety loop, FPP aluminum driveshaft, FPP 3.31 gears, Cobra Trac-Lok differential, Moser 31 spline axles, '04 Cobra 4-disc brakes, '93 Cobra booster & M/C, 5-lug Bullitt wheels & 245/45R17 M/T Street Comp tires.

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    • #17
      I think there's a misunderstanding here. I wanted the connectors without the pigtails, so I could add my transducers to the system and only needed the connectors. Holley wouldn't sell me just the connectors, so I searched everywhere, using mostly data you provided throughout your thorough posts, and came up with these connectors. So I figured I would just add the info I came up with to hopefully help out anyone in the future, to not have to search like I did for these goofy little connectors. :)

      Your posts are incredibly helpful and very much appreciated.
      If you had a donation account, I would gladly forward you some money.
      You devote a lot of your time into this, and I appreciate it.
      Your knowledge base of this Holley EFI system is awesome.

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      • #18
        TPS Connector?

        Anyone know the part number for the TPS connector? I think it's a Delphi Metri-Pack 150 Pull-To-Seat, but not finding it in the Delphi catalog?

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        • #19
          Some of the sensor connectors (such as TPS, MAP, A/C, Fuel & Oil) are Delphi GT 150 Series, with the different colored "key index" insert.
          https://www.eficonnection.com/home/p...le-connector-2 (EFI Connection - GT Series 3.5 mm Centerline)
          https://www.eficonnection.com/home/p...male-connector (EFI Connection - Metri-Pack Series 150)
          https://www.eficonnection.com/home/c...ors/connectors (EFI Connection - Connector & Terminal Search)
          http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/Ca...C89_0334770496 (NAPA/Echlin EC89 TPS, MAP, A/C, Fuel & Oil Connector Pigtail)
          http://www.summitracing.com/parts/pco-5643pt (Pico Wiring 5643PT TPS, MAP, A/C, Fuel & Oil Connector Pigtail)
          http://www.summitracing.com/parts/smp-s619 (Standard Motor Products S619 TPS, MAP, A/C, Fuel & Oil Connector Pigtail)
          http://www.rockauto.com/en/parts/sta...connector,2624 (Standard Motor Products S619 TPS, MAP, A/C, Fuel & Oil Connector Pigtail)
          http://www.repairconnector.com/produ...e-Tri-Way.html (Pico 5643C TPS, MAP, A/C, Fuel & Oil Connector Repair Connector Pigtail)
          https://theelectricaldepot.com/index...oducts_id=1584 (Delphi 12065287 TPS, MAP, A/C, Fuel & Oil Connector - Connector Only)
          http://forums.holley.com/showthread....4397#post54397 (TPS/Transducer Extension Harness)

          The Metri-Pack 150 sensor connector (TPS, MAP, A/C, Fuel & Oil) is not a Metri-Pack Series 150.2 connector body (LINK).
          #12103881 16/18 AWG (1.0-0.80 mm²) Metri-Pack 150 "Pull-To-Seat" terminals.
          #12089290 20/22 AWG (0.50-0.35 mm²) Metri-Pack 150 "Pull-To-Seat" terminals.
          The Delphi Metri-Pack 150.2 terminals have a flag for the newer slotted connectors (flat connectors, not round like TPS).

          If you're installing an additional transducer (as opposed to repairing an existing transducer connector), the
          Delphi Metri-Pack 150 connector is much better (LINK). I don't like the Delphi GT 150 style connector (LINK).
          https://www.eficonnection.com/home/c...ors/connectors (Select the connector at left and click "Filter", then its terminal will be listed below.)
          May God's grace bless you in the Lord Jesus Christ.
          '92 Ford Mustang GT: 385"/6.3L SBF, Dart SHP 8.2 block, forged steel crankshaft & H-beam rods, forged pistons, Trick Flow Twisted Wedge 11R 205 CNC Comp Ported heads, 12:1 compression ratio, 232°-244° duration/.623" lift/114° LSA camshaft, TFS R-Series FTI Comp Ported intake, BBK 80mm throttle body, Holley Dominator MPFI & DIS, Holley 36-1 crank trigger, MSD 1x cam sync, PA PMGR starter, PA 200A 3G alternator, Optima 34/78 Red battery, 100HP progressive dry direct-port NOS, R134a A/C, Spal Dual 12" HP 3168 CFM fans, Frostbite 3-core aluminum radiator, Pypes dual 2.5" exhaust, off-road X-pipe, shorty headers, Earl's -6AN fuel system plumbing, Walbro 255 LPH in-tank pump & Pro-M -6AN hanger, S&W subframe connectors, BMR upper & lower torque box reinforcements, LenTech Strip Terminator wide-ratio Ford AOD, 10" 3000 RPM C6 billet converter, B&M Hammer shifter, Stifflers transmission crossmember & driveshaft safety loop, FPP aluminum driveshaft, FPP 3.31 gears, Cobra Trac-Lok differential, Moser 31 spline axles, '04 Cobra 4-disc brakes, '93 Cobra booster & M/C, 5-lug Bullitt wheels & 245/45R17 M/T Street Comp tires.

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          • #20
            Danny, do you know the part number for the harness side 8-way Metri-Pack connector for the NTK WBO2? Is the CAN connector a Metri-Pack 150?

            By the way, thanks to all the help on here (and some other places too). I made my own main harness for my dragster.
            Also made my own 16 injector harness. Car runs good. I do have one WBO2 working out of P2A, and need to get the primary one going, so I can try Closed Loop.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Greg Kelley View Post
              Danny, do you know the part number for the harness side 8-way Metri-Pack connector for the NTK WBO2?
              See posts #8 & #14. It's a black, eight cavity Delphi Metri-Pack 150 Series connector:
              http://www.powerandsignal.com/docs/D...%20Catalog.pdf (Delphi Connection Systems Catalog - Page 2.16)

              FYI: These Delphi Metri-Pack connectors are color coded with corresponding slots.
              If plugging into an existing connector, the color of the connector isn't a "choice".

              Is the CAN connector a Metri-Pack 150?
              Yes.
              May God's grace bless you in the Lord Jesus Christ.
              '92 Ford Mustang GT: 385"/6.3L SBF, Dart SHP 8.2 block, forged steel crankshaft & H-beam rods, forged pistons, Trick Flow Twisted Wedge 11R 205 CNC Comp Ported heads, 12:1 compression ratio, 232°-244° duration/.623" lift/114° LSA camshaft, TFS R-Series FTI Comp Ported intake, BBK 80mm throttle body, Holley Dominator MPFI & DIS, Holley 36-1 crank trigger, MSD 1x cam sync, PA PMGR starter, PA 200A 3G alternator, Optima 34/78 Red battery, 100HP progressive dry direct-port NOS, R134a A/C, Spal Dual 12" HP 3168 CFM fans, Frostbite 3-core aluminum radiator, Pypes dual 2.5" exhaust, off-road X-pipe, shorty headers, Earl's -6AN fuel system plumbing, Walbro 255 LPH in-tank pump & Pro-M -6AN hanger, S&W subframe connectors, BMR upper & lower torque box reinforcements, LenTech Strip Terminator wide-ratio Ford AOD, 10" 3000 RPM C6 billet converter, B&M Hammer shifter, Stifflers transmission crossmember & driveshaft safety loop, FPP aluminum driveshaft, FPP 3.31 gears, Cobra Trac-Lok differential, Moser 31 spline axles, '04 Cobra 4-disc brakes, '93 Cobra booster & M/C, 5-lug Bullitt wheels & 245/45R17 M/T Street Comp tires.

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              • #22
                Danny, do you know what the terminal connector (ECU side) is on Holley 558-200 Injector Harness? What about pin-outs? Thank you in advance.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by BMF_RSCING View Post
                  Danny, do you know what the terminal connector (ECU side) is on Holley 558-200 Injector Harness?
                  The fuel injector harness connector is a gray, ten cavity Delphi Metri-Pack 150 Series connector with ten female terminals.
                  http://www.powerandsignal.com/docs/D...%20Catalog.pdf (Delphi Connection Systems Catalog - Page 2.17)

                  What about pin-outs?
                  http://forums.holley.com/showthread....ith-Holley-EFI (Fuel Injector Harness Information)
                  May God's grace bless you in the Lord Jesus Christ.
                  '92 Ford Mustang GT: 385"/6.3L SBF, Dart SHP 8.2 block, forged steel crankshaft & H-beam rods, forged pistons, Trick Flow Twisted Wedge 11R 205 CNC Comp Ported heads, 12:1 compression ratio, 232°-244° duration/.623" lift/114° LSA camshaft, TFS R-Series FTI Comp Ported intake, BBK 80mm throttle body, Holley Dominator MPFI & DIS, Holley 36-1 crank trigger, MSD 1x cam sync, PA PMGR starter, PA 200A 3G alternator, Optima 34/78 Red battery, 100HP progressive dry direct-port NOS, R134a A/C, Spal Dual 12" HP 3168 CFM fans, Frostbite 3-core aluminum radiator, Pypes dual 2.5" exhaust, off-road X-pipe, shorty headers, Earl's -6AN fuel system plumbing, Walbro 255 LPH in-tank pump & Pro-M -6AN hanger, S&W subframe connectors, BMR upper & lower torque box reinforcements, LenTech Strip Terminator wide-ratio Ford AOD, 10" 3000 RPM C6 billet converter, B&M Hammer shifter, Stifflers transmission crossmember & driveshaft safety loop, FPP aluminum driveshaft, FPP 3.31 gears, Cobra Trac-Lok differential, Moser 31 spline axles, '04 Cobra 4-disc brakes, '93 Cobra booster & M/C, 5-lug Bullitt wheels & 245/45R17 M/T Street Comp tires.

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                  • #24
                    Does this information relate to the Terminator EFI as well? Looks like a lot of the same connectors are used. Thanks.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by weendoggy View Post
                      Does this information relate to the Terminator EFI as well? Looks like a lot of the same connectors are used.
                      Most of the connectors are the same. The Terminator has a different main harness, so some of the connectors are different.
                      http://forums.holley.com/showthread....r-ECU-Question (Additional Information)
                      May God's grace bless you in the Lord Jesus Christ.
                      '92 Ford Mustang GT: 385"/6.3L SBF, Dart SHP 8.2 block, forged steel crankshaft & H-beam rods, forged pistons, Trick Flow Twisted Wedge 11R 205 CNC Comp Ported heads, 12:1 compression ratio, 232°-244° duration/.623" lift/114° LSA camshaft, TFS R-Series FTI Comp Ported intake, BBK 80mm throttle body, Holley Dominator MPFI & DIS, Holley 36-1 crank trigger, MSD 1x cam sync, PA PMGR starter, PA 200A 3G alternator, Optima 34/78 Red battery, 100HP progressive dry direct-port NOS, R134a A/C, Spal Dual 12" HP 3168 CFM fans, Frostbite 3-core aluminum radiator, Pypes dual 2.5" exhaust, off-road X-pipe, shorty headers, Earl's -6AN fuel system plumbing, Walbro 255 LPH in-tank pump & Pro-M -6AN hanger, S&W subframe connectors, BMR upper & lower torque box reinforcements, LenTech Strip Terminator wide-ratio Ford AOD, 10" 3000 RPM C6 billet converter, B&M Hammer shifter, Stifflers transmission crossmember & driveshaft safety loop, FPP aluminum driveshaft, FPP 3.31 gears, Cobra Trac-Lok differential, Moser 31 spline axles, '04 Cobra 4-disc brakes, '93 Cobra booster & M/C, 5-lug Bullitt wheels & 245/45R17 M/T Street Comp tires.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Danny Cabral View Post
                        The fuel injector harness connector is a gray, ten cavity Delphi Metri-Pack 150 Series connector with ten female terminals.
                        http://www.powerandsignal.com/docs/D...%20Catalog.pdf (Delphi Connection Systems Catalog - Page 2.17)
                        http://forums.holley.com/showthread....ith-Holley-EFI (Fuel Injector Harness Information)
                        As always Danny, thank you for your help!

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                        • #27
                          Using a Holley 558-104 main harness. Looking for some information on the Delphi Metri-Pack 150 series terminals.
                          Interested in the Delphi part numbers, since all 150 series Metri-Pack connectors are not the same. Thanks.
                          1. Looking for the air\water temperature terminals.
                          2. Looking for the transducer terminals.
                          3. Looking for the large male end going into the injector harness.
                          Last edited by Sickfox; 09-16-2014, 11:42 PM.
                          SICKFOX

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Sickfox View Post
                            1. Looking for the air\water temperature terminals.
                            http://www.powerandsignal.com/docs/D...%20Catalog.pdf (Delphi Connection Systems Catalog - Page 2.22, 8.2 & 8.9)
                            Depending on the coolant temperature sensor connector, it's either a GT Series 150 3.5 mm, or a Metri-Pack Series 150/150.2.

                            2. Looking for the transducer terminals.
                            http://www.powerandsignal.com/docs/D...%20Catalog.pdf (Delphi Connection Systems Catalog - Page 1.10)

                            3. Looking for the large male end going into the injector harness.
                            The fuel injector harness connector is a gray, ten cavity Delphi Metri-Pack 150 Series connector with ten female terminals.
                            http://www.powerandsignal.com/docs/D...%20Catalog.pdf (Delphi Connection Systems Catalog - Page 2.17)

                            Interested in the Delphi part numbers, since all 150 series Metri-Pack connectors are not the same.
                            Correct, the Delphi Metri-Pack connectors are color coded with corresponding slots.
                            If plugging into an existing connector, the color of the connector isn't a "choice".
                            May God's grace bless you in the Lord Jesus Christ.
                            '92 Ford Mustang GT: 385"/6.3L SBF, Dart SHP 8.2 block, forged steel crankshaft & H-beam rods, forged pistons, Trick Flow Twisted Wedge 11R 205 CNC Comp Ported heads, 12:1 compression ratio, 232°-244° duration/.623" lift/114° LSA camshaft, TFS R-Series FTI Comp Ported intake, BBK 80mm throttle body, Holley Dominator MPFI & DIS, Holley 36-1 crank trigger, MSD 1x cam sync, PA PMGR starter, PA 200A 3G alternator, Optima 34/78 Red battery, 100HP progressive dry direct-port NOS, R134a A/C, Spal Dual 12" HP 3168 CFM fans, Frostbite 3-core aluminum radiator, Pypes dual 2.5" exhaust, off-road X-pipe, shorty headers, Earl's -6AN fuel system plumbing, Walbro 255 LPH in-tank pump & Pro-M -6AN hanger, S&W subframe connectors, BMR upper & lower torque box reinforcements, LenTech Strip Terminator wide-ratio Ford AOD, 10" 3000 RPM C6 billet converter, B&M Hammer shifter, Stifflers transmission crossmember & driveshaft safety loop, FPP aluminum driveshaft, FPP 3.31 gears, Cobra Trac-Lok differential, Moser 31 spline axles, '04 Cobra 4-disc brakes, '93 Cobra booster & M/C, 5-lug Bullitt wheels & 245/45R17 M/T Street Comp tires.

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                            • #29
                              Danny, thanks for the information.
                              I looked up the Delphi information you provided, and it looks like the transducers and air/water sensors share a similar terminal.
                              The Delphi part numbers for the ones I found are the following: #15326266 & #15326267. Thanks.

                              However, I'm still confused about the main harness connecting to the injector harness.
                              The Delphi link is not showing it. It's the pin leaving the main harness, looks like a male end.
                              SICKFOX

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Sickfox View Post
                                I looked up the Delphi information you provided, and it looks like the transducers and air/water sensors share a similar terminal.
                                Yes.
                                FYI: Don't confuse the GT 3.5 mm centerline terminals with the Metri-Pack 150/150.2 series terminals.
                                Both are very similar "Pull-To-Seat" type terminals. Look closely at your terminals before ordering:
                                http://www.powerandsignal.com/docs/D...%20Catalog.pdf (Delphi Connection Systems Catalog - GT 150 3.5mm Centerline, Page 1.10)
                                http://www.powerandsignal.com/docs/D...%20Catalog.pdf (Delphi Connection Systems Catalog - Metri-Pack 150, Page 2.98)
                                http://www.powerandsignal.com/docs/D...%20Catalog.pdf (Delphi Connection Systems Catalog - Metri-Pack 150.2, Page 2.22 & 2.12)
                                http://www.whiteproducts.com/pull-to-seat.shtml (Delphi Metri-Pack 150/150.2 Connectors/Terminals)
                                http://theelectricaldepot.com/weathe...2-pull-to-seat (Delphi Metri-Pack 150/150.2 Connectors/Terminals)
                                https://www.corsa-technic.com/catego...category_id=81 (Additional Metri-Pack 150.2 Connector/Terminal Availability)
                                https://www.eficonnection.com/home/c...ors/connectors (Select the connector at left and click "Filter", then its terminal will be listed below.)

                                The Delphi part numbers for the ones I found are the following: #15326266 & #15326267. Thanks.
                                Yes, use the 0.50-0.35 mm² terminals for the small 22 AWG transducer wiring.
                                http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/aw...uge-d_731.html (AWG to mm² Wire Conversion)

                                However, I'm still confused about the main harness connecting to the injector harness.
                                The Delphi link is not showing it. It's the pin leaving the main harness, looks like a male end.
                                That Delphi/Aptiv 12045773 Metri-Pack 150 male terminal is found on page 2.13 of this catalog:
                                http://www.powerandsignal.com/docs/D...%20Catalog.pdf (Delphi Connection Systems Catalog)
                                May God's grace bless you in the Lord Jesus Christ.
                                '92 Ford Mustang GT: 385"/6.3L SBF, Dart SHP 8.2 block, forged steel crankshaft & H-beam rods, forged pistons, Trick Flow Twisted Wedge 11R 205 CNC Comp Ported heads, 12:1 compression ratio, 232°-244° duration/.623" lift/114° LSA camshaft, TFS R-Series FTI Comp Ported intake, BBK 80mm throttle body, Holley Dominator MPFI & DIS, Holley 36-1 crank trigger, MSD 1x cam sync, PA PMGR starter, PA 200A 3G alternator, Optima 34/78 Red battery, 100HP progressive dry direct-port NOS, R134a A/C, Spal Dual 12" HP 3168 CFM fans, Frostbite 3-core aluminum radiator, Pypes dual 2.5" exhaust, off-road X-pipe, shorty headers, Earl's -6AN fuel system plumbing, Walbro 255 LPH in-tank pump & Pro-M -6AN hanger, S&W subframe connectors, BMR upper & lower torque box reinforcements, LenTech Strip Terminator wide-ratio Ford AOD, 10" 3000 RPM C6 billet converter, B&M Hammer shifter, Stifflers transmission crossmember & driveshaft safety loop, FPP aluminum driveshaft, FPP 3.31 gears, Cobra Trac-Lok differential, Moser 31 spline axles, '04 Cobra 4-disc brakes, '93 Cobra booster & M/C, 5-lug Bullitt wheels & 245/45R17 M/T Street Comp tires.

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